tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post8820366306578816651..comments2022-06-16T20:11:09.261-07:00Comments on Conosci te stesso: LA MEMORIA SACRA DELLO SCIAMANOAlessia Birrihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09538305177304729903noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-17601328881764830322021-01-12T00:22:58.980-08:002021-01-12T00:22:58.980-08:00https://www.ricchezzavera.com/blog/prodotti/film/n...https://www.ricchezzavera.com/blog/prodotti/film/nosso-lar-la-nostra-dimora-film-italiano-recensione/?unapproved=34755&moderation-hash=82b27ecfd22aa921818f84e1e02fb824#comment-34755Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09181563591455952040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-58155426026241227762020-06-03T01:16:13.883-07:002020-06-03T01:16:13.883-07:00Good morning: it is really exciting for me to rece...Good morning: it is really exciting for me to receive comments from such an authoritative person and thank you very much for this. I am self-taught, unfortunately I cannot afford professional translations of my essays, not even to publish paper books because I don't have the economic possibilities, but only through the blog can I express my thoughts. I am very sorry if this creates difficulties for non-Italian readers to understand. Thanks for the interesting and valuable comments that are added to this work.Alessia Birrihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09538305177304729903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-68296044405572183552020-06-02T06:02:11.736-07:002020-06-02T06:02:11.736-07:00Some of the images in your article (Italian cave e...Some of the images in your article (Italian cave engraving of dancers; Ice Age migration scene on two panels; Gobekli Tepe deep relief engravings; etc), contain the usual average of about 60% of about 100 known features of archetypal structure.<br />See demonstrations of the underlying structure in: <br />Furter, E.D., 2014. Mindprint. Lulu.com. (200 illustrations of rock art and art of all ages)<br />Furter, E.D. 2016 Stoneprint. Four Equators Media. (130 illustrations of site maps, geoglyphs, Periodic Table, chapter on 'cultural' initiation, etc)<br />Extracts on www.mindprintart.wordpress.com<br />Six articles in the anthropology journal Expression.<br />Some papers on Researchgate, on Academia, and extracts on www.edmondfurter.wordpress.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657005284298892462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-90532848625400085692020-06-02T05:53:02.250-07:002020-06-02T05:53:02.250-07:00Here is a third part of your text in English [with...Here is a third part of your text in English [with my comments in square brackets]: ‘Archetype as a profound and absolute instance[solution] is therefore related to traditional expression of each ethnic group or culture [no, archetype is universal, and continues in all media today. Cultural differences are only stylistic]. Jung argued that archetypal images can be found everywhere in art, recognisable by identical or very similar motives[themes], and manifest regardless of the socio-cultural context. Jung discovered archetype models and images in myths and dreams of cultures worldwide, and in the course of whole human history. However, in modern common opinion, it is improbable that all of prehistoric human history, and universal ambition, an "emergent" consciousness of information expression did not occur through representations, symbols and mythical tales. For example, knowledge of precession of seasons, described precisely, according to scholars, in paleolithic rock paintings in Europe, was it for the first time consciously calculated in Greek astronomy by Hipparcus of Nicea (d120)? Has no human ever had this notion?[yes, we did, and rare prodigy geniuses know it consciously, but all people know it subconsciously, and many artists and other crafters express it subconsciously.] And abstract signs? The ultimate question cannot have been added randomly, or as pure decoration, to animals images. And it is clearly understood that they communicate a message[not directly], as a universal scipt[no. Art, myth, icons, divination and other media are not specific messages]. The hand-print images in France in Gargas cave (Aventignan, Mt Pyrenees), about BP 27 000, impressed[outlined] in red ochre and carbon, and enigmatic characteristic of missing fingers, have had many interpretations. It seems plausible, however, that it was a conscious form of language [script. Not primarily], comprehensible to the artist and the patrons of that epoch. We therefore believe [you could not base a theory of layers of congnition on a minor observation about hand-prints], that between structured psychic unconscious[subconscious] and comprehend consciousness of these messages [art is not script], is verified a very early [hand-prints outlines on rock walls continued in the Iron Age] convergence [no,] in the human story, dating back to an ancestral epoch, preserved by ritual and tradition initiation [no, archetype is not learned, and erroneous innovations are regularly erased, and archetypal features are regularly re-confirmed], that spread tens of thousands of years ago over the whole world. [your paradigm is hyper-diffusion. Subconscious expression of archetypal structure contradicts diffusion, learning, teaching, accumulation and ‘development’ of culture, and offers a better model of cultural conservation, which incidentally explains the correspondences that fascinate archaeo-astronomers. Congratulations on the broad scope of your review of popular anthropology.]Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657005284298892462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-23766960220522354162020-06-02T05:52:29.261-07:002020-06-02T05:52:29.261-07:00Here is part of your text in English [with my comm...Here is part of your text in English [with my comments in square brackets]: ‘Anthropologist LEVI STRAUSS (d2009) after the archetype theory of phycho-analyst Jung, was the first to develop a unifying instrument analytic that found a logical explanation for diffusion[distribution] by concept, symbol and shared tradition by the end of the Paleolithic, in the population and culture of the world, far apart in space and time; the theory is named structuralism, and defines each expression (art, social and language) on the basis of "structured soul", pre-determined and universal, rooted in the unconscious at individual and collective level, which would not allow free arbitrary space to creative human action, but would accompany every gesture without the subject’s awareness. The history of the artist in practice, not conscious of the significant, profound result of his work, is guided by more profound forces. The more brilliant the artist is (if his/her expression is not limited to a mere reproduction of reality), the more the forces acting in him/her draw on the profound and universal solution’[pattern].[The above paragraph unfairly conflates Jung and Levi-Strauss].[last section of my comment to follow;Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657005284298892462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-70547430494229671502020-06-02T05:50:20.148-07:002020-06-02T05:50:20.148-07:00Here is part of your text in English [with my comm...Here is part of your text in English [with my comments in square brackets]: THE THEORY OF ARCHETYPES, BY EDMOND FURTER. ‘The scene of the DEAD MAN'S WELL in LASCAUX cave is often identified as an astrological map of Taurus, facing Orion as hunter, but according to EDMOND FURTER ([structuralist] anthropologist, archaeo-astronomer and Swiss[South African] researcher, editor of Stoneprint Journal)… it is more likely an image of a shaman[healer] invoking rain before a vision of a bull as a symbol of thunder. The episode[also]… coincides with [equal expressions in] myth and constellations. But the scenes, according to this interesting theory[backed by a mass of demonstrated evidence], were not conceived as a star map [but express archetypal structure in all cultural media]...<br />'Artists do not rely on [picture] constellation[s or] concepts, as they have direct access to intuitive concepts[archetypal meaning via optional features], semi-conscious symbols, and icons [that also express] the subconscious hologram, which corresponds to [as] archetypal baggage[original structure, never taught, never learned, never changed]. Painting constellations would be as limiting as painting by numbers. Artists are guided by forces[structure] arising from the depths[of nature and perception], which in their timeless and archetypal essence guide realisation of the[cultural] work without[bypassing] the artist’s conscious mind.<br />But if this theory were plausible, between archetypal knowledge[inspiration] and concrete and conscious (external) knowledge[experience], there would be a convergence that would cancel out any opposition to the hypothesis of star maps. In this respect, EDMOND FURTER's thought[evidence] would prove superior, because it is conciliatory, while the union of unconscious[subconscious] concepts[structure] and knowledge[experience and expressions] would be perfectly consistent with the holistic and unitary vision of the cosmos, and between conscious and unconscious[subconscious] mind.’<br />[Archetypal structure has sixteen main types, each with about eight optional meanings, each with a few optional features, each with a range of styling, in every natural and cultural medium. Thus natural and subconscious expressions of archetype are always partial and imperfect versions of Archetype, which is knowable only through its variant expressions in the natural and cultural record. The results look like endless diversity, but the underlying recurrent meanings are easily identified if the optional meanings in various media become known. The theory of mindprint in art, stoneprint in building sites, and blueprint in alphabets, myth, ritual and other media, lists these recurrent features, each with their specific average frequencies, in percentages]. [rest to follow in next comment;Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657005284298892462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-35807130205862370762020-06-02T02:22:44.727-07:002020-06-02T02:22:44.727-07:00Where may I find an English version of your articl...Where may I find an English version of your article on Memoria Sacra Dello Sciamano, particularly the parts containing your comment on the archetypal structuralist anthropology of Edmond Furter, and the earlier work of Levi-Strauss. Greetings, Edmondfurter@gmail.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08657005284298892462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8043033874697774236.post-82626976798499107462020-03-11T10:58:26.117-07:002020-03-11T10:58:26.117-07:00Questo commento è stato eliminato da un amministratore del blog.sus pedido de prestamohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17541090645988279569noreply@blogger.com